1 00:00:21,910 --> 00:00:12,780 [Music] 2 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,010 either way 3 00:00:40,130 --> 00:00:37,910 [Music] 4 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:40,140 foreign 5 00:01:08,380 --> 00:01:06,170 [Music] 6 00:01:13,969 --> 00:01:08,390 DVD 7 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:18,289 the eyes of a cat who knows with it 8 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:33,910 [Music] 9 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,520 let's not described which it uh 10 00:01:39,530 --> 00:01:43,789 [Music] 11 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:46,069 hey first good evening and welcome to 12 00:01:49,730 --> 00:01:47,759 another episode of fans of monsters 13 00:01:52,609 --> 00:01:49,740 radio where we explore the strange and 14 00:01:54,530 --> 00:01:52,619 young explained I'm your host lawn 15 00:01:57,109 --> 00:01:54,540 Stricker thanks for joining me now if 16 00:02:00,590 --> 00:01:57,119 you enjoy our content Please Subscribe 17 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:00,600 like and share our presentations 18 00:02:03,469 --> 00:02:02,399 um please feel free to leave a comment 19 00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:03,479 as well 20 00:02:08,330 --> 00:02:06,000 uh Super Chat is active during the show 21 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:08,340 so please show your support for fans of 22 00:02:12,890 --> 00:02:10,679 monsters radio by clicking the dollar 23 00:02:15,410 --> 00:02:12,900 icon underneath the chat 24 00:02:19,550 --> 00:02:15,420 uh you can also support the channel by 25 00:02:22,250 --> 00:02:19,560 uh clicking super thanks icon and uh buy 26 00:02:23,809 --> 00:02:22,260 me a coffee link consideration is very 27 00:02:26,570 --> 00:02:23,819 much appreciated 28 00:02:29,210 --> 00:02:26,580 so tonight Richard Michelle joins me 29 00:02:32,589 --> 00:02:29,220 he's a Paranormal Investigator intuitive 30 00:02:35,330 --> 00:02:32,599 and writer for Morse County New Jersey 31 00:02:37,010 --> 00:02:35,340 is the owner and team leader of the New 32 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:37,020 Jersey paranormal project and 33 00:02:42,949 --> 00:02:40,800 organization he founded back in 2007 his 34 00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:42,959 goal was to research and investigate 35 00:02:46,369 --> 00:02:44,519 spirit 36 00:02:48,890 --> 00:02:46,379 through the New Jersey paranormal 37 00:02:50,570 --> 00:02:48,900 project though the New Jersey paranormal 38 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,580 project has gotten to work on some of 39 00:02:55,670 --> 00:02:52,560 the best with some of the best experts 40 00:02:58,309 --> 00:02:55,680 in the Paranormal field spiritualist and 41 00:03:00,229 --> 00:02:58,319 mediums the New Jersey paranormal 42 00:03:03,290 --> 00:03:00,239 project can be seen on YouTube and 43 00:03:04,850 --> 00:03:03,300 anyone can view the case files and be a 44 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:04,860 party investigation 45 00:03:10,610 --> 00:03:07,980 Richard is also a writer author lecturer 46 00:03:13,369 --> 00:03:10,620 his latest book is titled Case Files of 47 00:03:15,130 --> 00:03:13,379 paranormal and you can find Richard's 48 00:03:17,390 --> 00:03:15,140 website at 49 00:03:19,430 --> 00:03:17,400 richardmachella.com so Richard thanks 50 00:03:21,229 --> 00:03:19,440 for joining me tonight thank you for 51 00:03:23,869 --> 00:03:21,239 having me online 52 00:03:26,030 --> 00:03:23,879 it's great to be back well we're going 53 00:03:29,149 --> 00:03:26,040 to get into a few a few different things 54 00:03:32,210 --> 00:03:29,159 tonight uh but I do first want to talk 55 00:03:34,850 --> 00:03:32,220 about the new book yeah uh tell us a bit 56 00:03:36,830 --> 00:03:34,860 about it and what you got in it and some 57 00:03:39,350 --> 00:03:36,840 of the stuff you've investigated 58 00:03:41,089 --> 00:03:39,360 well with the Case Files book my 59 00:03:44,270 --> 00:03:41,099 previous books are all centered around 60 00:03:47,089 --> 00:03:44,280 spirit and with Case Files I wanted to 61 00:03:50,390 --> 00:03:47,099 go outside of that and I wanted to cover 62 00:03:52,610 --> 00:03:50,400 other books that I've read that I grew 63 00:03:56,270 --> 00:03:52,620 up on you know reading books about 64 00:03:57,949 --> 00:03:56,280 aliens books about Sasquatch so there 65 00:04:00,229 --> 00:03:57,959 were encounters that I had that were 66 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:00,239 outside of the spirit realm 67 00:04:06,110 --> 00:04:03,120 um I found a footprint here in northern 68 00:04:08,750 --> 00:04:06,120 New Jersey which is right outside of an 69 00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:08,760 urban area and this goes back in like 70 00:04:13,970 --> 00:04:11,700 1998 so this was a story that I carried 71 00:04:15,890 --> 00:04:13,980 around for years and when I was working 72 00:04:19,250 --> 00:04:15,900 on the Case Files book I'm like this is 73 00:04:20,270 --> 00:04:19,260 the book for it so I tell that story in 74 00:04:22,250 --> 00:04:20,280 it 75 00:04:25,310 --> 00:04:22,260 um I talk about 76 00:04:28,129 --> 00:04:25,320 um the Hudson Valley and the wave that 77 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:28,139 started there in the 1980s 78 00:04:33,770 --> 00:04:32,160 um with UFO the alien abduction Whitley 79 00:04:36,409 --> 00:04:33,780 streber 80 00:04:38,390 --> 00:04:36,419 um these are I I kind of wanted to make 81 00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:38,400 like a Mod Podge book of all different 82 00:04:44,150 --> 00:04:41,280 things that I experienced that got me 83 00:04:46,790 --> 00:04:44,160 into the Paranormal that anybody with an 84 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:46,800 interest in various paranormal topics 85 00:04:51,650 --> 00:04:49,199 could pick up this book and have an 86 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:51,660 enjoyable time reading it so that's what 87 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:54,120 the Case Files book is 88 00:04:59,150 --> 00:04:57,840 interesting great well we're going to 89 00:05:02,090 --> 00:04:59,160 talk about something a little bit 90 00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:02,100 different sure during this during the 91 00:05:08,510 --> 00:05:05,220 week you just sent me a a drawing you're 92 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:08,520 an intuitive yeah and you do Spirit art 93 00:05:17,330 --> 00:05:12,720 and you in your mind's eye you picked up 94 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:17,340 on something that dealt with me yes and 95 00:05:25,310 --> 00:05:21,919 uh you did a you didn't uh a rendering 96 00:05:28,969 --> 00:05:25,320 and uh you asked me if it looked 97 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:28,979 familiar so start off by that talk about 98 00:05:35,570 --> 00:05:33,120 it uh and we'll go we'll go from there 99 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:35,580 and uh you know I did I was trying to 100 00:05:40,550 --> 00:05:37,680 figure out what it was or who it was you 101 00:05:43,249 --> 00:05:40,560 had you had drawn right but after we 102 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:43,259 thought about it it may very well been 103 00:05:48,290 --> 00:05:45,360 my father so we'll put up an image of 104 00:05:51,050 --> 00:05:48,300 him right after we do that so tell me a 105 00:05:54,469 --> 00:05:51,060 bit about it well I was finishing work 106 00:05:57,050 --> 00:05:54,479 up with a client and we were having a a 107 00:05:58,749 --> 00:05:57,060 spirit art session where I'm sitting 108 00:06:01,370 --> 00:05:58,759 right here at my desk and I'm working 109 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:01,380 and I'm doing the reading for them it 110 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:03,360 comes to a close and you sent me a 111 00:06:08,230 --> 00:06:05,759 message with the graphics and the info 112 00:06:12,170 --> 00:06:08,240 on the show that we're having right now 113 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:12,180 so I started to look look over the 114 00:06:17,090 --> 00:06:13,740 information and all of a sudden this 115 00:06:19,010 --> 00:06:17,100 man's image pops into my mind's eye and 116 00:06:21,290 --> 00:06:19,020 when it came through I started to get 117 00:06:23,390 --> 00:06:21,300 more evidence and I knew this wasn't for 118 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:23,400 my sitter I'm like this I feel is 119 00:06:27,469 --> 00:06:25,680 connected to lawn 120 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:27,479 so I stayed a little longer in the 121 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:29,280 office and I started to sketch the man 122 00:06:34,610 --> 00:06:32,520 as best as I can I'm not an artist what 123 00:06:36,050 --> 00:06:34,620 I call this is I'm trying to capture the 124 00:06:37,249 --> 00:06:36,060 essence of the person that's coming 125 00:06:39,469 --> 00:06:37,259 through 126 00:06:40,969 --> 00:06:39,479 so I'm trying to capture that Essence 127 00:06:43,010 --> 00:06:40,979 that's going to bring this person back 128 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:43,020 to life through the details on his face 129 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:45,900 the wrinkles the size of the face the 130 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:48,240 hairline so I'm trying to do that but as 131 00:06:52,550 --> 00:06:50,460 that's coming through evidential 132 00:06:54,590 --> 00:06:52,560 information is coming through me now the 133 00:06:57,710 --> 00:06:54,600 evidential information is what you see 134 00:07:00,770 --> 00:06:57,720 written all around that picture and that 135 00:07:02,450 --> 00:07:00,780 is what connects this to the person that 136 00:07:03,430 --> 00:07:02,460 the reading is intended for the sitter 137 00:07:05,870 --> 00:07:03,440 right 138 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:05,880 this is the evidential the evidence 139 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:08,400 that's coming through from Spirit so 140 00:07:15,050 --> 00:07:12,180 you'll see a man the man is between 77 141 00:07:17,570 --> 00:07:15,060 to like 81 years of age 142 00:07:19,790 --> 00:07:17,580 um I was drawn to his chest area I feel 143 00:07:22,129 --> 00:07:19,800 that there was a congestion 144 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:22,139 um maybe a heart issue that led to his 145 00:07:27,290 --> 00:07:24,720 passing possibly 146 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:27,300 um he he stepped forward as a father 147 00:07:35,029 --> 00:07:32,639 figure I I I see him you know father 148 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:35,039 um I see him very mechanical fixing 149 00:07:38,210 --> 00:07:36,240 things 150 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:38,220 um I see like he had two schools and 151 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:40,800 then an image of a train how Spirit 152 00:07:45,950 --> 00:07:43,560 communicates is through symbols and they 153 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:45,960 use images that I know to get a message 154 00:07:50,809 --> 00:07:48,960 through so seeing the train he either 155 00:07:52,969 --> 00:07:50,819 collected trains or he had something to 156 00:07:56,749 --> 00:07:52,979 do with the railroad 157 00:07:59,029 --> 00:07:56,759 um then I see something happening older 158 00:08:01,249 --> 00:07:59,039 with him like maybe a generation before 159 00:08:04,909 --> 00:08:01,259 him maybe a farm or something his family 160 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:04,919 had something to do with land 161 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:06,560 um 162 00:08:14,749 --> 00:08:10,620 even small livestock like like chickens 163 00:08:16,730 --> 00:08:14,759 like something and that that's fine okay 164 00:08:19,010 --> 00:08:16,740 I'll talk about in a minute okay go 165 00:08:21,050 --> 00:08:19,020 ahead keep going like chickens like 166 00:08:23,029 --> 00:08:21,060 something like that so I I wanted to 167 00:08:25,369 --> 00:08:23,039 include that because I'm like I see 168 00:08:27,529 --> 00:08:25,379 mechanical but yet I see like livestock 169 00:08:30,950 --> 00:08:27,539 and chickens 170 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:30,960 um he was a big man he was Built Tough I 171 00:08:36,589 --> 00:08:34,080 I I feel that he wasn't you know 172 00:08:38,750 --> 00:08:36,599 um blanky like I feel that he was a 173 00:08:41,570 --> 00:08:38,760 tough tough man 174 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:41,580 um overalls jeans work shirt kind of guy 175 00:08:46,790 --> 00:08:43,919 I don't feel like he was always dressed 176 00:08:49,610 --> 00:08:46,800 up I feel like he really enjoyed just 177 00:08:53,350 --> 00:08:49,620 wearing casual clothes 178 00:08:57,350 --> 00:08:53,360 um here I could even go off here um 179 00:08:59,870 --> 00:08:57,360 he was a gentle a gentle giant he could 180 00:09:01,490 --> 00:08:59,880 be very strict and this is where I you 181 00:09:03,290 --> 00:09:01,500 know asked you I said he had a way of 182 00:09:05,930 --> 00:09:03,300 doing things and he liked things done 183 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:05,940 his way and I feel that it's pertained 184 00:09:11,449 --> 00:09:09,360 to his his work if anybody helped him it 185 00:09:13,009 --> 00:09:11,459 was he had a way of doing things that he 186 00:09:14,389 --> 00:09:13,019 wanted you to do the same way that he 187 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:14,399 did 188 00:09:19,550 --> 00:09:18,910 people he worked hard 189 00:09:20,829 --> 00:09:19,560 [Music] 190 00:09:24,530 --> 00:09:20,839 um 191 00:09:27,590 --> 00:09:24,540 then there's a legacy and when I see 192 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:27,600 that word pop up into my mind's eye this 193 00:09:32,570 --> 00:09:29,279 Legacy I feel that there might be a 194 00:09:33,769 --> 00:09:32,580 namesake somebody that's carrying on his 195 00:09:34,810 --> 00:09:33,779 name 196 00:09:37,370 --> 00:09:34,820 um 197 00:09:40,430 --> 00:09:37,380 another image that comes because I do 198 00:09:43,370 --> 00:09:40,440 ask Spirit to bring forth images that 199 00:09:45,889 --> 00:09:43,380 bring back things that they did in life 200 00:09:48,650 --> 00:09:45,899 I don't know if he had a porch on his 201 00:09:50,930 --> 00:09:48,660 house but I see him sitting on a porch 202 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:50,940 and I don't know if there was a dog in 203 00:09:55,490 --> 00:09:52,980 the family but I see like a brown kind 204 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:55,500 of mutt 205 00:10:02,210 --> 00:09:58,560 okay I don't know if he had this as a 206 00:10:04,370 --> 00:10:02,220 child but um and then I wanted to ask is 207 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:04,380 there a dispute over land because I see 208 00:10:07,970 --> 00:10:07,320 that there's something to do with land 209 00:10:11,329 --> 00:10:07,980 um 210 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:11,339 fishing Then I then I see another memory 211 00:10:14,570 --> 00:10:13,200 that pops into my head fishing in a 212 00:10:17,030 --> 00:10:14,580 small pond 213 00:10:19,070 --> 00:10:17,040 I feel that he worked a lot and he 214 00:10:20,990 --> 00:10:19,080 missed out a lot and that is a regret 215 00:10:23,690 --> 00:10:21,000 that he brings forward that he missed 216 00:10:26,449 --> 00:10:23,700 out on a lot of things right won't know 217 00:10:28,610 --> 00:10:26,459 if when years come forward I try to jot 218 00:10:30,650 --> 00:10:28,620 them down because it might mean that 219 00:10:31,790 --> 00:10:30,660 something is celebrated or we're 220 00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:31,800 mourning something like something 221 00:10:38,329 --> 00:10:35,700 happened so 1996 1997 I see that being 222 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:38,339 like a year that he wants to bring bring 223 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:42,720 forward okay proud veteran I see an 224 00:10:48,050 --> 00:10:45,360 American flag in my mind's eye waving 225 00:10:50,210 --> 00:10:48,060 that military service I see him going 226 00:10:53,090 --> 00:10:50,220 for meetings at like an American Legion 227 00:10:57,230 --> 00:10:53,100 hanging out drinking coffee 228 00:11:00,290 --> 00:10:57,240 um another image is an aluminum Robo and 229 00:11:03,170 --> 00:11:00,300 it's like green I don't know if he 230 00:11:04,790 --> 00:11:03,180 fished in this but that aluminum rowboat 231 00:11:06,290 --> 00:11:04,800 that has that that chipped green paint 232 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:06,300 on it 233 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:10,079 and I feel that he passed before his 234 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:14,000 wife he he went first 235 00:11:20,329 --> 00:11:17,519 and this is what I got usually I'll even 236 00:11:22,910 --> 00:11:20,339 go on to another sheet but since I 237 00:11:25,490 --> 00:11:22,920 didn't want to bombard you at like 9 30 238 00:11:27,650 --> 00:11:25,500 10 o'clock at night I was like let me 239 00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:27,660 send this over and see if this resonates 240 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:32,100 because again I I'm like this I felt was 241 00:11:37,490 --> 00:11:35,160 for you but you know I you know wanted 242 00:11:40,610 --> 00:11:37,500 to throw it out there for you 243 00:11:43,250 --> 00:11:40,620 okay well let me tell now I the picture 244 00:11:45,230 --> 00:11:43,260 I I guess Vincent can put it up there or 245 00:11:47,329 --> 00:11:45,240 put the pictures together however he 246 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:47,339 wants to do this 247 00:11:52,150 --> 00:11:49,260 um my dad 248 00:11:55,730 --> 00:11:52,160 lost a lot of weight 249 00:11:59,150 --> 00:11:55,740 uh when he when he was diagnosed with 250 00:12:02,030 --> 00:11:59,160 cancer and had as a diabetic okay so he 251 00:12:05,210 --> 00:12:02,040 he lost about a hundred pounds 252 00:12:07,069 --> 00:12:05,220 and you you can probably see that in the 253 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:07,079 actual photograph of him 254 00:12:13,069 --> 00:12:12,000 uh he was 84 when he passed he died from 255 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:13,079 um 256 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:16,140 problem with his heart he had a heart 257 00:12:20,150 --> 00:12:17,360 infection 258 00:12:23,630 --> 00:12:20,160 uh he was in the Air Force 259 00:12:26,990 --> 00:12:23,640 during Korea oh wow but he never fought 260 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:27,000 he was uh he was stationed in Africa and 261 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:28,800 the Azores 262 00:12:33,769 --> 00:12:32,100 he is with the 509th bomber Wing which 263 00:12:34,910 --> 00:12:33,779 was the same bomber Wing that was at 264 00:12:38,329 --> 00:12:34,920 Roswell 265 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:38,339 oh wow and uh 266 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:43,980 I got I got to go with him on um on 267 00:12:49,069 --> 00:12:46,980 reunions at Wright-Patterson Air Force 268 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:49,079 Base and talked to some of the guys who 269 00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:52,320 are actually at Roswell that is amazing 270 00:12:54,530 --> 00:12:53,760 London 271 00:12:58,129 --> 00:12:54,540 um 272 00:13:02,449 --> 00:12:58,139 we he owned a hobby shop it was probably 273 00:13:04,730 --> 00:13:02,459 the largest model train collector east 274 00:13:09,230 --> 00:13:04,740 of the Mississippi 275 00:13:12,350 --> 00:13:09,240 and he was very much into trains he used 276 00:13:14,329 --> 00:13:12,360 to fix that uh model trains 277 00:13:19,129 --> 00:13:14,339 but that's what he was known for he was 278 00:13:19,970 --> 00:13:19,139 known for as a a train collector 279 00:13:22,009 --> 00:13:19,980 um 280 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:22,019 uh I I think he did have some regret 281 00:13:28,670 --> 00:13:24,560 because when his my parents got divorced 282 00:13:32,509 --> 00:13:28,680 I I did not see him for many years 283 00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:32,519 uh I think he wanted me to take over the 284 00:13:37,730 --> 00:13:34,440 store 285 00:13:40,190 --> 00:13:37,740 but it just didn't fit in with what I 286 00:13:43,069 --> 00:13:40,200 was doing and there was a land dispute 287 00:13:47,090 --> 00:13:43,079 because when he passed away his wife 288 00:13:48,829 --> 00:13:47,100 which was his second wife uh I I was 289 00:13:52,490 --> 00:13:48,839 supposed to get the property and she got 290 00:13:55,250 --> 00:13:52,500 it oh wow and we had a big land dispute 291 00:13:58,069 --> 00:13:55,260 we had a in the 292 00:13:59,990 --> 00:13:58,079 you know we had at one time that my 293 00:14:01,790 --> 00:14:00,000 grandmother and my family had owned a 294 00:14:04,610 --> 00:14:01,800 lot of property we owned actually a 295 00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:04,620 whole block of town there were about 296 00:14:12,170 --> 00:14:09,720 seven houses and uh a lot of land and 297 00:14:13,970 --> 00:14:12,180 um so uh I don't know maybe they had no 298 00:14:18,730 --> 00:14:13,980 he never fished he was not an 299 00:14:26,629 --> 00:14:23,629 he was set in his ways I mean this guy I 300 00:14:29,329 --> 00:14:26,639 I you know owning the store he never 301 00:14:33,050 --> 00:14:29,339 took credit cards he never took checks 302 00:14:34,970 --> 00:14:33,060 it was a cash only business wow it was 303 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:34,980 like getting ever since my grandfather 304 00:14:39,470 --> 00:14:38,220 started in 1950 305 00:14:41,389 --> 00:14:39,480 four 306 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:41,399 okay because my grandfather actually 307 00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:43,100 started the business 308 00:14:48,829 --> 00:14:47,040 and uh yeah so I guess that that pretty 309 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:48,839 well 310 00:14:56,990 --> 00:14:54,000 think with the photograph because he did 311 00:14:59,509 --> 00:14:57,000 he did have hair I mean he he kind of 312 00:15:02,509 --> 00:14:59,519 and it was he just cut her really short 313 00:15:04,850 --> 00:15:02,519 but uh I think that was a good drawing 314 00:15:08,090 --> 00:15:04,860 of him years ago before he lost the 315 00:15:10,750 --> 00:15:08,100 weight uh but uh yeah he was but he was 316 00:15:15,110 --> 00:15:10,760 he was 84 when he passed and like I said 317 00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:15,120 uh he had a military funeral yep and uh 318 00:15:20,769 --> 00:15:17,940 yeah so and he was he was a member of 319 00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:20,779 the American Legion he did not drink 320 00:15:27,410 --> 00:15:24,180 very little was a heavy coffee drinker 321 00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:27,420 yeah coffee cup yeah 322 00:15:31,189 --> 00:15:29,519 so yeah you might you might have hit 323 00:15:34,670 --> 00:15:31,199 that you know you sent that to me 324 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:34,680 earlier in the week or last week and I 325 00:15:40,250 --> 00:15:37,680 was trying to figure out who that was 326 00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:40,260 I I do this a lot with like my sitters 327 00:15:45,650 --> 00:15:44,220 about probably like 85 to 90 I'll sketch 328 00:15:48,110 --> 00:15:45,660 everything out I'll write all that 329 00:15:51,050 --> 00:15:48,120 evidential stuff sometimes it goes on to 330 00:15:53,329 --> 00:15:51,060 you know two three sheets of paper and 331 00:15:55,970 --> 00:15:53,339 I'll email that to them and this would 332 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:55,980 be days before our reading because I 333 00:16:01,069 --> 00:15:58,800 want them to you know ask a cousin or 334 00:16:03,769 --> 00:16:01,079 you know find out what like what this 335 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:03,779 meant and it even helps the reading as 336 00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:06,959 as we both sit down to work on this to 337 00:16:14,230 --> 00:16:11,810 oh and also he didn't like dressing up 338 00:16:17,090 --> 00:16:14,240 he yeah 339 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:17,100 he hated wearing a suit 340 00:16:21,949 --> 00:16:18,720 um 341 00:16:23,750 --> 00:16:21,959 yeah yeah like the jeans you know 342 00:16:25,730 --> 00:16:23,760 because I know when we were when I was a 343 00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:25,740 kid he used to go to church he he used 344 00:16:30,350 --> 00:16:29,040 to [\h__\h] about it all the time and uh I 345 00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:30,360 mean that was the first I mean we got in 346 00:16:35,090 --> 00:16:31,920 the door as the first thing it came off 347 00:16:37,129 --> 00:16:35,100 so uh yeah he he did not like being 348 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:37,139 dressed up yeah 349 00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:39,180 um yeah 350 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,240 very proud and the regret like he missed 351 00:16:48,769 --> 00:16:45,600 out on a lot so yeah he knows you know 352 00:16:51,290 --> 00:16:48,779 and I think you know when we cross over 353 00:16:53,449 --> 00:16:51,300 to the other side Things become much 354 00:16:55,310 --> 00:16:53,459 clearer to us on things that we did 355 00:16:58,129 --> 00:16:55,320 right and things that we got wrong but 356 00:17:00,290 --> 00:16:58,139 exactly and that's I think our souls 357 00:17:03,050 --> 00:17:00,300 learning you know I think that's why 358 00:17:09,289 --> 00:17:06,530 interesting uh I also got a picture of I 359 00:17:12,530 --> 00:17:09,299 sent to Vincent about uh of the store 360 00:17:14,510 --> 00:17:12,540 itself we had a we were pretty well it 361 00:17:17,329 --> 00:17:14,520 was it was a well-known story it was 362 00:17:21,949 --> 00:17:17,339 like an institution in the town we lived 363 00:17:23,809 --> 00:17:21,959 in right and um yeah so uh yeah so when 364 00:17:24,890 --> 00:17:23,819 he passed we look everything was 365 00:17:30,110 --> 00:17:24,900 liquidated 366 00:17:31,850 --> 00:17:30,120 so yeah interesting cool very cool on 367 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:31,860 nice so why don't you tell us a bit 368 00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,600 about some of the other Spirit art 369 00:17:38,810 --> 00:17:35,280 you've done some of the cases you've 370 00:17:40,909 --> 00:17:38,820 done yeah um with with Spirit art you 371 00:17:44,270 --> 00:17:40,919 know it's it's very important to capture 372 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:44,280 the essence of that person and bring 373 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:47,160 bring them back to life 374 00:17:52,430 --> 00:17:50,700 um so with it's if I'm at historical and 375 00:17:54,169 --> 00:17:52,440 let me let me mention one thing first I 376 00:17:57,650 --> 00:17:54,179 did want to say this you said something 377 00:18:00,529 --> 00:17:57,660 about livestock livestock yeah like on 378 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:00,539 top when he was a kid 379 00:18:06,289 --> 00:18:04,260 he used to keep chickens on top of the 380 00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,299 store it was a flat top on the store 381 00:18:13,250 --> 00:18:08,880 yeah and used to keep chicken pens up 382 00:18:14,990 --> 00:18:13,260 there and he used to he used to butcher 383 00:18:19,310 --> 00:18:15,000 the chickens he used to kill him and 384 00:18:21,890 --> 00:18:19,320 butcher them uh and 385 00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:21,900 because of that he never ate chicken as 386 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:23,340 an adult 387 00:18:31,490 --> 00:18:27,840 wow yeah yeah small small livestock I'm 388 00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:31,500 like I yeah I'm like how it's how's this 389 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:34,320 coming into the reading about smoke you 390 00:18:37,789 --> 00:18:35,520 know we didn't have a form or anything 391 00:18:41,270 --> 00:18:37,799 yeah and that's what kind of threw me 392 00:18:44,570 --> 00:18:41,280 off because chickens a lot of my uh a 393 00:18:47,450 --> 00:18:44,580 lot of my relatives had forms yeah and 394 00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:47,460 were formers and uh I thought but then 395 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:49,440 again when you we started going over it 396 00:18:53,570 --> 00:18:51,240 then I thought well then maybe it was 397 00:18:55,789 --> 00:18:53,580 him that's interesting interesting well 398 00:18:57,409 --> 00:18:55,799 go ahead I I'm sorry for interrupting I 399 00:18:59,570 --> 00:18:57,419 know not a problem no when I go into 400 00:19:00,590 --> 00:18:59,580 like these historical locations that's 401 00:19:02,810 --> 00:19:00,600 how 402 00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:02,820 um a few years back that made me want to 403 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:06,240 start to hone this gift was I would get 404 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:08,400 images through my mind's eye I would 405 00:19:13,310 --> 00:19:11,160 walk into a place that we were doing an 406 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:13,320 investigation at and be like I see a 407 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:15,600 heavy set man he's Burly he has like a 408 00:19:20,570 --> 00:19:17,760 double-breasted soup big handlebar 409 00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:20,580 mustache so I started to sketch this 410 00:19:26,029 --> 00:19:23,940 stuff and the historians the docents 411 00:19:27,049 --> 00:19:26,039 would be like this is this person and 412 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:27,059 then they would bring me in the back 413 00:19:31,730 --> 00:19:29,039 room and open up you know history books 414 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:31,740 and be like you sketched you know so and 415 00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:32,640 so 416 00:19:38,990 --> 00:19:36,720 like you know I need to start working on 417 00:19:42,110 --> 00:19:39,000 this and being that I do work with 418 00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:42,120 mediums they put me on to people that 419 00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:45,360 specialized in spirit art and the in the 420 00:19:49,850 --> 00:19:47,280 images are obtained from the influenza 421 00:19:52,669 --> 00:19:49,860 Spirit no knowledge or photographs of 422 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,679 the deceased was seen by myself before 423 00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:54,720 the session like I had no knowledge on 424 00:19:59,690 --> 00:19:57,000 your family's history lawn I knew 425 00:20:02,529 --> 00:19:59,700 nothing about your dad so this stuff is 426 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:02,539 all coming to me from spirit Spirit is 427 00:20:08,690 --> 00:20:04,980 what spirit's doing is they're blending 428 00:20:11,990 --> 00:20:08,700 with me and using me to sketch this 429 00:20:14,990 --> 00:20:12,000 picture you know my my mind's eye I I 430 00:20:17,390 --> 00:20:15,000 see the Spirit come forward and I do my 431 00:20:19,610 --> 00:20:17,400 best to capture their essence you know 432 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:19,620 and that's exactly what this is and the 433 00:20:24,110 --> 00:20:21,360 blending takes place and I begin to see 434 00:20:26,690 --> 00:20:24,120 images through my mind's eye 435 00:20:29,029 --> 00:20:26,700 so it's interesting because like I had 436 00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,039 told you before I'm an intuitive I do a 437 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:31,919 lot of intuitive work I do Spirit rescue 438 00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:36,799 I I uh I'm a trained uh remote viewer 439 00:20:42,529 --> 00:20:40,380 and uh I have a lot of images in my 440 00:20:45,049 --> 00:20:42,539 mind's eye as well I'm not a very great 441 00:20:48,529 --> 00:20:45,059 Artist as far as doing portraits and 442 00:20:51,950 --> 00:20:48,539 stuff I do I do create art but I I I 443 00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:51,960 haven't done you know that right and uh 444 00:20:58,850 --> 00:20:55,440 so yeah I uh I understand where you're 445 00:21:02,330 --> 00:20:58,860 coming from on this yeah and uh it's 446 00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:02,340 it's it's just really amazing like how 447 00:21:08,570 --> 00:21:05,940 Spirit works because I was telling you 448 00:21:11,630 --> 00:21:08,580 this before we went live I was doing for 449 00:21:14,510 --> 00:21:11,640 I was doing a reading for a client and 450 00:21:17,690 --> 00:21:14,520 the woman had lost her mother and she 451 00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,700 has all of her mother's dishes so she 452 00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,440 was thinking to herself what am I going 453 00:21:23,150 --> 00:21:21,360 to do with my mother's dishes her 454 00:21:25,070 --> 00:21:23,160 daughter is just getting married so the 455 00:21:27,710 --> 00:21:25,080 night before our reading she sat in her 456 00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:27,720 kitchen and she goes mom what what what 457 00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:30,720 should I do with the dishes 458 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:33,000 the next day we're having the reading I 459 00:21:35,630 --> 00:21:34,559 start doing the sketch and I write 460 00:21:41,390 --> 00:21:35,640 dishes 461 00:21:43,549 --> 00:21:41,400 and as soon as we get to that point in 462 00:21:44,990 --> 00:21:43,559 the reading like we did with you Lon we 463 00:21:47,570 --> 00:21:45,000 we start going around and the dishes 464 00:21:48,890 --> 00:21:47,580 come forward and she goes oh my God I 465 00:21:50,930 --> 00:21:48,900 would just ask my mother what I should 466 00:21:52,370 --> 00:21:50,940 do with the dishes and she's like I'm 467 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,380 gonna give the dishes to my daughter 468 00:21:58,330 --> 00:21:54,720 this is like her saying to keep the 469 00:22:01,310 --> 00:21:58,340 dishes don't don't get rid of the dishes 470 00:22:03,169 --> 00:22:01,320 another reading I did was for a woman 471 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,179 whose grandfather came through and I'm 472 00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:06,240 seeing images of furnaces and furnaces 473 00:22:10,970 --> 00:22:08,460 and pipes and I see a white piece of 474 00:22:14,210 --> 00:22:10,980 paper with a black seal on it and I'm 475 00:22:17,810 --> 00:22:14,220 like oh this is a boiler man he had a 476 00:22:19,490 --> 00:22:17,820 black seal he was certified so I brought 477 00:22:22,010 --> 00:22:19,500 that up I brought that up in the reading 478 00:22:23,690 --> 00:22:22,020 and that to me is an anchor you know 479 00:22:25,850 --> 00:22:23,700 when you could bring that 480 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:25,860 specific information 481 00:22:32,330 --> 00:22:29,120 forward from Spirit that can attach its 482 00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:32,340 attach itself to that client you know 483 00:22:36,890 --> 00:22:34,260 that's what makes it personal you know 484 00:22:39,049 --> 00:22:36,900 with that kind of a connection 485 00:22:41,930 --> 00:22:39,059 um anybody could say you know oh yeah I 486 00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:41,940 see water around your dad but if we can 487 00:22:46,610 --> 00:22:44,340 find out okay water what kind of water 488 00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:46,620 was he an Outdoorsman did he serve in 489 00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:47,700 the army 490 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:51,179 get to the evidence you know we we need 491 00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:54,360 to know clearly what that person did you 492 00:22:59,149 --> 00:22:56,880 know oh I see you know your uh father 493 00:23:02,630 --> 00:22:59,159 he's sitting on a dock what did he work 494 00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:02,640 on the docks or did he you know fish off 495 00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:05,400 the dock like and that's what we try to 496 00:23:08,690 --> 00:23:06,840 bring forward and if we could bring 497 00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:08,700 anything 498 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:11,340 um from Spirit to our sitter that 499 00:23:16,730 --> 00:23:13,140 connects these important moments of that 500 00:23:18,049 --> 00:23:16,740 person's life that is my goal so that 501 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:18,059 black seal 502 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:20,700 once that came forward her eyes welled 503 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,740 up with water and she started crying 504 00:23:27,529 --> 00:23:25,200 because she knew her grandfather was 505 00:23:30,289 --> 00:23:27,539 communicating that's something that I 506 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,299 had no way of knowing 507 00:23:34,909 --> 00:23:32,640 um another thing of that I could include 508 00:23:37,789 --> 00:23:34,919 was we're getting ready for another 509 00:23:40,909 --> 00:23:37,799 client and in my mind's eye and you know 510 00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:40,919 how this works I see a stuffed plush of 511 00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:44,159 Garfield with the suction cups on a car 512 00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:46,380 window and I'm like what is this what 513 00:23:51,169 --> 00:23:47,760 does this mean 514 00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:51,179 and I grew up in Lodi in Garfield was 515 00:23:59,330 --> 00:23:54,960 right next to Lodi my clients I knew the 516 00:24:01,970 --> 00:23:59,340 area yeah my my client's grandfather he 517 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:01,980 grew up in Garfield okay so now if I saw 518 00:24:06,529 --> 00:24:05,039 an image of Lodi or even Garfield pop up 519 00:24:08,330 --> 00:24:06,539 in my mind so I just think that I'm 520 00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:08,340 thinking about going home you know my 521 00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,380 you know hometown 522 00:24:14,690 --> 00:24:12,419 but because they showed me the Garfield 523 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:14,700 plushie with the suction cups it made me 524 00:24:17,390 --> 00:24:16,200 want to bring it up in the reading 525 00:24:19,789 --> 00:24:17,400 because I knew it had to be something 526 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:19,799 for my sitter so as soon as I brought up 527 00:24:23,450 --> 00:24:21,480 the Garfield the plushie with the 528 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:23,460 suction cup she goes Garfield my 529 00:24:27,409 --> 00:24:25,980 grandfather was from Garfield so if it 530 00:24:28,909 --> 00:24:27,419 came up the other way where I just saw 531 00:24:30,289 --> 00:24:28,919 an image of Garfield I would have 532 00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:30,299 thought that I was thinking about my 533 00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:32,100 hometown but because he went the other 534 00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:34,440 route with it and showed me Garfield I 535 00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:36,960 used it in the reading and it made a 536 00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:39,000 hundred percent sense to the sitter so 537 00:24:45,470 --> 00:24:41,700 Spirit works amazingly you know with 538 00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:45,480 showing symbols and prompting us as 539 00:24:52,669 --> 00:24:49,500 their conduit to get that message across 540 00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:52,679 yeah these are some more sketches that I 541 00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:56,400 do for our other clients so it it always 542 00:25:01,010 --> 00:24:58,799 amazes me each time that I sit down for 543 00:25:03,289 --> 00:25:01,020 any session with a client or whether I'm 544 00:25:05,690 --> 00:25:03,299 working with a historical society you 545 00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:05,700 know how Spirit uses us to get their 546 00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:07,380 message through 547 00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:09,960 do you ever do you ever connect directly 548 00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:16,430 um like the spirits to me yes I feel 549 00:25:22,669 --> 00:25:19,520 that we are connected we are Blended 550 00:25:25,610 --> 00:25:22,679 and when we are having these these 551 00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:25,620 sessions I do not see spirit standing 552 00:25:28,909 --> 00:25:27,059 next to people because that's another 553 00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:28,919 thing that you know work and stuff 554 00:25:32,930 --> 00:25:30,360 people come up to me and they're like 555 00:25:34,970 --> 00:25:32,940 Rich do you see somebody with me I go I 556 00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:34,980 see things through my mind's eye that's 557 00:25:39,769 --> 00:25:36,779 clairvoyantly 558 00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:39,779 um so I'll see images come up through my 559 00:25:48,049 --> 00:25:43,020 mind's eye images symbols sayings words 560 00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:48,059 dates so that's how I blend with spirit 561 00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:50,580 interesting 562 00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:54,320 but yeah I mean I I can see where that 563 00:26:00,289 --> 00:25:57,900 can you know how how you do that how 564 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,299 that comes up because it happens to me 565 00:26:05,570 --> 00:26:02,159 occasion 566 00:26:08,210 --> 00:26:05,580 um maybe not as much detail 567 00:26:10,730 --> 00:26:08,220 right but I can get an overall sense of 568 00:26:14,269 --> 00:26:10,740 someone as opposed to actually seeing 569 00:26:16,970 --> 00:26:14,279 detail or physical detail 570 00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:16,980 um it because it's crazy and I've talked 571 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:19,919 about this before but when I I I when I 572 00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:22,320 am around Spirit energy 573 00:26:27,070 --> 00:26:25,559 I detected in my mind's eye through 574 00:26:31,010 --> 00:26:27,080 colors 575 00:26:33,529 --> 00:26:31,020 uh that's something that has always been 576 00:26:36,590 --> 00:26:33,539 a part of what I do 577 00:26:39,529 --> 00:26:36,600 uh I can kind of feel around kind of 578 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:39,539 sense sense the energy around me right 579 00:26:45,350 --> 00:26:42,480 when I it's strong I start seeing a 580 00:26:50,090 --> 00:26:45,360 certain series of colors now 581 00:26:54,110 --> 00:26:50,100 I have seen auras around the living 582 00:26:57,649 --> 00:26:54,120 okay I don't use that or have not been 583 00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:57,659 able to do that with uh someone in 584 00:27:01,370 --> 00:26:58,620 spirit 585 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:01,380 but I do occasionally see auras around 586 00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:03,720 the living 587 00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:06,900 um but uh I you know I guess each one of 588 00:27:11,690 --> 00:27:09,539 us work in such a different way it it's 589 00:27:14,029 --> 00:27:11,700 it is interesting when you hear folks 590 00:27:17,330 --> 00:27:14,039 talk about it 591 00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,340 um so yeah yeah I mean have you had have 592 00:27:21,769 --> 00:27:19,919 you had any investigations uh in 593 00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:21,779 particular where you've worked as you 594 00:27:27,649 --> 00:27:24,120 know your team and such and have done 595 00:27:28,370 --> 00:27:27,659 work and and have tried to maybe 596 00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:28,380 um 597 00:27:34,430 --> 00:27:30,720 you know uh 598 00:27:37,370 --> 00:27:34,440 uh send send on a spirit into a into the 599 00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:37,380 next level or anything to that degree 600 00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:40,140 now we haven't moved 601 00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:44,340 Spirit on I mean right when we are in a 602 00:27:48,529 --> 00:27:46,860 place and sometimes there's children you 603 00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:48,539 know um there's 604 00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,460 children's Spirits or they're saying 605 00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:52,559 there's a woman who's crying I mean what 606 00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:54,720 we bring forth is the historical 607 00:28:00,110 --> 00:27:56,760 information we talk about what they did 608 00:28:02,029 --> 00:28:00,120 in life we talk we talk about who passed 609 00:28:04,190 --> 00:28:02,039 and if their children pass before them 610 00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:04,200 and if this is an issue on why we feel 611 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:06,480 that this female might be still hanging 612 00:28:13,010 --> 00:28:08,520 around because she misses her children 613 00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:13,020 we explain to spirit that you know your 614 00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:15,659 children have passed on or your mother 615 00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:18,000 and father have passed on and they're on 616 00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:20,039 the other side and you don't have to be 617 00:28:26,029 --> 00:28:23,460 here anymore and we feel that informing 618 00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,039 them about this and talking about their 619 00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:28,620 lives and you know that this is now this 620 00:28:34,490 --> 00:28:32,159 new homeowner's house and you know I 621 00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:34,500 feel that that gives them the you know 622 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,600 understanding of where being 623 00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,159 acknowledged 624 00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,159 okay they're talking about us so they 625 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:43,919 acknowledge us and they're telling us 626 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:46,860 about our family and they're informing 627 00:28:50,930 --> 00:28:48,240 us that we don't have to stay here 628 00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:50,940 anymore I mean I don't 629 00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:52,500 move 630 00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:54,000 Spirit on 631 00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:55,020 um I 632 00:28:59,870 --> 00:28:57,960 I leave that to professionals I I think 633 00:29:03,409 --> 00:28:59,880 there are people that are very good at 634 00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:03,419 doing that yeah but what we go in and we 635 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:05,820 will try to let Spirit know you don't 636 00:29:09,169 --> 00:29:07,320 have to be here and we leave it up to 637 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:09,179 them to make that choice to stay or go 638 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,760 oh it's always free will I mean you know 639 00:29:14,890 --> 00:29:13,200 that's something it's hard for some 640 00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:14,900 people to understand 641 00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:17,100 uh when you're working with like an 642 00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:20,460 Earthbound or or energy that's uh just 643 00:29:26,210 --> 00:29:22,440 doesn't really understand why it may be 644 00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:26,220 there or the reasons behind it but you 645 00:29:30,350 --> 00:29:28,200 know when you when someone comes to you 646 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,360 and says you know I I you know I want 647 00:29:34,970 --> 00:29:32,640 them to move on because they're causing 648 00:29:36,409 --> 00:29:34,980 issues 649 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:36,419 um and 650 00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:37,980 you know the spirit all they're trying 651 00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:40,559 to do is connect with the living and try 652 00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:43,919 to get to assess why they're there or 653 00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:45,960 they don't understand it why they're 654 00:29:49,610 --> 00:29:47,760 dead or they might not even know they're 655 00:29:52,610 --> 00:29:49,620 dead 656 00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:52,620 um and um 657 00:29:57,529 --> 00:29:55,020 you know I it's hard to explain to some 658 00:29:59,570 --> 00:29:57,539 folks that you know it's free will you 659 00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,580 know they don't want to move they're not 660 00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:01,919 going anywhere what's Richard michella 661 00:30:06,409 --> 00:30:03,779 gonna do right to make a spirit that's 662 00:30:08,090 --> 00:30:06,419 been there for 150 years be like oh okay 663 00:30:09,710 --> 00:30:08,100 I'm Gonna Leave exactly 664 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,720 yeah well 665 00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,760 yeah I mean I have TR I mean there have 666 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:14,000 been cases I've been involved with where 667 00:30:20,289 --> 00:30:18,240 yeah we have kind of coaxed them to go 668 00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:20,299 into the next level 669 00:30:27,230 --> 00:30:25,500 uh we use uh I use Angels now some 670 00:30:29,570 --> 00:30:27,240 people just don't believe in angels some 671 00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:29,580 you know some people are very skeptic 672 00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,720 skeptical of angels I but I I have used 673 00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:36,000 them and I I use them in most of my work 674 00:30:41,810 --> 00:30:39,720 yeah and uh you know they're not the 675 00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:41,820 beings with the the wings and all that 676 00:30:47,570 --> 00:30:44,820 other crap that you know people see yeah 677 00:30:51,230 --> 00:30:47,580 uh it's not it's it's not a religious 678 00:30:53,930 --> 00:30:51,240 thing it's uh it's just a being that 679 00:30:57,409 --> 00:30:53,940 like it's not human or was never human 680 00:31:00,350 --> 00:30:57,419 but it's something that's used to move 681 00:31:02,029 --> 00:31:00,360 move energies on and uh you know that's 682 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:02,039 when you talk about like the ascended 683 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:04,559 masters you talk about guides and 684 00:31:09,529 --> 00:31:07,919 helpers and you know these these light 685 00:31:11,810 --> 00:31:09,539 beings like you said that have never 686 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:11,820 been incarnated you know that are 687 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,460 working in the higher Realms that work 688 00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:16,320 for the highest good that can come in 689 00:31:22,850 --> 00:31:19,620 and help so 690 00:31:24,409 --> 00:31:22,860 interesting uh now I did look in you I 691 00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:24,419 did look at your book 692 00:31:28,490 --> 00:31:26,520 and I see that you had a Sasquatch 693 00:31:32,029 --> 00:31:28,500 encounter so want to tell us about that 694 00:31:36,110 --> 00:31:32,039 yes back in 1998 695 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,120 um huge fishing huge fishing guy here so 696 00:31:40,930 --> 00:31:38,159 my friends and I we would go up to this 697 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:40,940 wooded uh this this mountain area 698 00:31:46,010 --> 00:31:43,440 Northern New Jersey 699 00:31:49,549 --> 00:31:46,020 um and we would hike and fish 700 00:31:51,889 --> 00:31:49,559 so we got up there and you know we we 701 00:31:54,169 --> 00:31:51,899 started walking on the Wilderness Trail 702 00:31:56,990 --> 00:31:54,179 and we're going to the lake and we smelt 703 00:32:00,350 --> 00:31:57,000 this foul smell it smelled like like wet 704 00:32:02,810 --> 00:32:00,360 dog if I had to describe it but like a 705 00:32:04,370 --> 00:32:02,820 hundred times worse and immediately we 706 00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:04,380 think there might be a bear in the area 707 00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:06,059 so we started making noise we're banging 708 00:32:10,370 --> 00:32:07,980 our tackle boxes 709 00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:10,380 so we get up to the top of the lake and 710 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,960 we're fishing and as the day moves on we 711 00:32:16,850 --> 00:32:14,640 start going towards the back of the lake 712 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:16,860 and there's a section of land that 713 00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:19,679 slopes down into a marshy section so 714 00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:21,480 we're like you know what fishing 715 00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:22,919 pressure back here is probably 716 00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:25,140 non-existent nobody's even gonna access 717 00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:28,080 this let's go down there and fish in 718 00:32:33,769 --> 00:32:31,799 this area so we start walking down that 719 00:32:35,990 --> 00:32:33,779 slopey section and there's this fallen 720 00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:36,000 tree that goes over a nice little area 721 00:32:42,649 --> 00:32:38,640 to access the lake and as we're walking 722 00:32:44,330 --> 00:32:42,659 down to this area I see three definitive 723 00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,340 Footprints 724 00:32:48,889 --> 00:32:46,799 um one looks like it's the ball and Toes 725 00:32:50,810 --> 00:32:48,899 of the foot kind of pressing down 726 00:32:54,889 --> 00:32:50,820 another one was 727 00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,899 a really good solid footprint and the 728 00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:57,360 next was like another you know ball toe 729 00:33:02,750 --> 00:32:59,760 as it was going up the slope 730 00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:02,760 and immediately I'm like oh my God I'm a 731 00:33:06,889 --> 00:33:05,520 size 13 sneaker and this made my foot 732 00:33:10,330 --> 00:33:06,899 look small 733 00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:10,340 and yeah there he is 734 00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:14,399 so I immediately you know this is 1998 735 00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,260 so those little point point and click 736 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,720 cameras those Fuji film things that you 737 00:33:21,769 --> 00:33:20,640 would pick up at like your food store I 738 00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,779 had one 739 00:33:25,789 --> 00:33:23,519 the end of a fishing trip I know 740 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,799 everybody always says oh take take a 741 00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:28,320 bunch of pictures well I only had one 742 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:29,580 picture left 743 00:33:33,230 --> 00:33:31,500 and I said you know what I'm gonna take 744 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:33,240 a picture of my foot next to it so I 745 00:33:38,330 --> 00:33:36,480 took a picture of it and for years I've 746 00:33:40,009 --> 00:33:38,340 showed it to people that I went to high 747 00:33:42,289 --> 00:33:40,019 school when I was in high school and I 748 00:33:43,850 --> 00:33:42,299 showed it to people you know and it 749 00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:43,860 moved with me to all these different 750 00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:47,340 places that I lived and a few a few 751 00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:50,220 years ago I lost it I just can't locate 752 00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:52,980 what I did with this picture but it was 753 00:33:59,049 --> 00:33:55,500 amazing because you could see the toes 754 00:34:02,090 --> 00:33:59,059 you could see the heel I mean it was 755 00:34:05,690 --> 00:34:02,100 definitively a Sasquatch brand I mean it 756 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:05,700 had to be a size 15 to 17 757 00:34:11,629 --> 00:34:09,359 um shoe that that I you know found in 758 00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:11,639 the woods and it was that moment on that 759 00:34:17,629 --> 00:34:14,639 I'm like this is like in my own backyard 760 00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:17,639 you know I'm growing up in Bergen County 761 00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:19,560 and this is right on the border of 762 00:34:29,270 --> 00:34:27,349 go ahead there he is so yeah so the 763 00:34:31,970 --> 00:34:29,280 Ramapo area I don't know if you ever 764 00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:31,980 been up to that noise I know the area 765 00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:35,879 the Wanaque reservoirs there 766 00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:38,639 um so if you think about it and you say 767 00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,300 well there's there's the lake up there 768 00:34:47,570 --> 00:34:44,879 at Ramapo and it goes right into Orange 769 00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:47,580 County then that goes into the Catskills 770 00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:50,639 so there could be enough room for a 771 00:34:56,750 --> 00:34:54,480 Sasquatch to migrate you know or to Rome 772 00:34:58,910 --> 00:34:56,760 without you know walking through 773 00:35:01,250 --> 00:34:58,920 downtown you know 774 00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:01,260 Patterson 775 00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:02,820 yeah I don't think we're going to see 776 00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:05,640 many in Patterson County for the most 777 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:08,640 part uh you know that whole corridor 778 00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:11,520 from where you know where you had your 779 00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:14,040 encounter up north into uh into New York 780 00:35:18,589 --> 00:35:16,320 up into Catskill we get a lot of 781 00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:18,599 sighting reports up there 782 00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:21,960 um so uh Catskill is a pretty prevalent 783 00:35:26,270 --> 00:35:24,660 as far as Bigfoot sightings oh yeah that 784 00:35:29,329 --> 00:35:26,280 whole section of like the Hudson Valley 785 00:35:31,849 --> 00:35:29,339 going into you know Sussex County going 786 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:31,859 into Passaic County that West like 787 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:35,760 Milford area so in years since I mean 788 00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:37,920 I've I've always gone back I've I've 789 00:35:42,349 --> 00:35:40,260 always you know I'm a hiker when I'm not 790 00:35:44,329 --> 00:35:42,359 doing any paranormal stuff and I'm 791 00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:44,339 always out out I'm always out there in 792 00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:45,540 the woods 793 00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:47,460 and there have been times when you're 794 00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:49,980 out and the woods go completely silent 795 00:35:55,130 --> 00:35:52,560 and there's no points and there's no 796 00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:55,140 Wildlife making noises and the hair on 797 00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:58,619 your arms kind of stand up so there 798 00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:01,200 there is things going on out there that 799 00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:03,720 that we don't know we don't 800 00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:06,960 comprehend I mean we're close to Clinton 801 00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:09,839 Road which I covered in the Case Files 802 00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,540 book and and with Clinton Road it's the 803 00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:15,119 same thing people are experiencing and 804 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:17,640 stuff from the Cryptid animals to 805 00:36:21,890 --> 00:36:19,320 hellhounds 806 00:36:24,050 --> 00:36:21,900 um there's people that supposedly give 807 00:36:25,370 --> 00:36:24,060 you know Chase and Phantom cars and 808 00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:25,380 vanish 809 00:36:32,089 --> 00:36:28,980 so that too I uh wrote about and I talk 810 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,099 about land ties and the Elementals 811 00:36:37,490 --> 00:36:35,280 so that that that Case Files book even 812 00:36:39,650 --> 00:36:37,500 when I do shows and we're talking about 813 00:36:41,569 --> 00:36:39,660 Spirit there's always a group of people 814 00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:41,579 at the end of the show that want to talk 815 00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:44,339 just about the Case Files book and it's 816 00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:46,140 awesome because it was something I did 817 00:36:51,829 --> 00:36:48,420 that was outside of the spirit stuff and 818 00:36:54,069 --> 00:36:51,839 it resonated with people so let me get 819 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:54,079 to a few questions here I've got um 820 00:36:56,690 --> 00:36:56,170 James West asked Richard 821 00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:56,700 [Music] 822 00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:57,540 um 823 00:37:01,730 --> 00:37:00,300 because your experience the experience 824 00:37:04,190 --> 00:37:01,740 you have 825 00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:04,200 uh what's your opinion of what happens 826 00:37:11,569 --> 00:37:08,400 in the afterlife wow okay that's kind of 827 00:37:14,569 --> 00:37:11,579 a broad one there well like James I feel 828 00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:14,579 that it's a frequency if that makes 829 00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:16,140 sense I feel that there's different 830 00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:18,000 levels 831 00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:20,940 um I feel that our soul is energy right 832 00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:23,099 so we enter this 833 00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:26,940 frequency and we resonate with what 834 00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:28,380 level that we're on I mean there's 835 00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:29,640 lighter 836 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:32,220 and there's darker you know I'm not 837 00:37:36,530 --> 00:37:34,140 saying that there is pure evil on the 838 00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,540 bottom but you know there's the darkest 839 00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,400 to the lightest and I feel that the 840 00:37:43,490 --> 00:37:40,320 lives that we lived and the lessons that 841 00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:43,500 we learned in this lifetime we progress 842 00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:46,740 we could digress we could you know and 843 00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:48,540 then I feel that that's what the 844 00:37:54,589 --> 00:37:51,839 afterlife is I feel it's a frequency 845 00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:54,599 and um and 846 00:37:59,569 --> 00:37:57,599 you know it's the other side of life I I 847 00:38:03,410 --> 00:37:59,579 feel that you know I don't think that 848 00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:03,420 we're playing Harps and all like that 849 00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:06,300 stuff you know we're we're given through 850 00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:09,000 entertainment and you know oh you can 851 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:11,700 drive cars in the afterlife and you know 852 00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:13,980 you could go see Elvis I don't think 853 00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:16,200 that's what it's about on that side I 854 00:38:21,950 --> 00:38:19,260 think it's the evolution of our soul 855 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:21,960 um and that future pull 856 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,040 um I'm a huge Advocate and I talk about 857 00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,280 past lives I feel that we do keep coming 858 00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:31,680 back and we do have lessons that we 859 00:38:36,290 --> 00:38:33,660 learn in each lifetime no matter how 860 00:38:39,130 --> 00:38:36,300 difficult our lives are I feel that 861 00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:39,140 those lessons teach our soul while we're 862 00:38:44,569 --> 00:38:41,460 incarnated here 863 00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:44,579 and while we're incarnated those lessons 864 00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:47,520 no matter how good no matter how bad 865 00:38:53,810 --> 00:38:51,720 help our soul grow and we'll move up in 866 00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:53,820 that frequency and maybe one day we 867 00:38:57,770 --> 00:38:55,560 could be up there with the ascended 868 00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:57,780 masters and we could offer help and we 869 00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:00,540 could be guides to younger Souls but I 870 00:39:05,690 --> 00:39:03,300 do feel that we do keep coming back I I 871 00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:05,700 don't feel that yeah I I agree with that 872 00:39:10,250 --> 00:39:07,500 you know I've been a I've been a part of 873 00:39:13,069 --> 00:39:10,260 several regressions uh past life 874 00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:13,079 regressions right uh or especially early 875 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,180 on but um 876 00:39:19,130 --> 00:39:17,760 you know I was very skeptical of all 877 00:39:22,190 --> 00:39:19,140 that 878 00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:22,200 you know and but as I got involved with 879 00:39:28,910 --> 00:39:24,660 with people who did regression hypnosis 880 00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:28,920 and who were mediums and such I 881 00:39:32,690 --> 00:39:31,079 um I've come to the conclusion I don't 882 00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,700 know what you think about this but I 883 00:39:38,150 --> 00:39:34,079 think when 884 00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:38,160 when our life force is detached on the 885 00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:41,099 living body and when we die that it 886 00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:42,660 ascends 887 00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:45,540 to another level which I'd like to 888 00:39:50,569 --> 00:39:48,119 describe as like a weigh station 889 00:39:53,710 --> 00:39:50,579 basically were there 890 00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:53,720 or the energy the life force is there 891 00:40:00,829 --> 00:39:58,800 and I I have become much more 892 00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:00,839 uh 893 00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:04,380 believing of of reincarnation I think 894 00:40:10,490 --> 00:40:07,440 that when the the life force of the soul 895 00:40:13,630 --> 00:40:10,500 is in in that state that it is 896 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:13,640 designated for another life eventually 897 00:40:18,109 --> 00:40:16,800 and uh that's you know from listening to 898 00:40:20,810 --> 00:40:18,119 people 899 00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:20,820 in regression and then talking with them 900 00:40:26,930 --> 00:40:23,820 afterwards and and you know that just 901 00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:26,940 seems to be what I the impression I get 902 00:40:31,069 --> 00:40:28,500 when they're when they're talking about 903 00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:31,079 it I mean I could be wrong but that 904 00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:33,060 that's kind of it's kind of like a way 905 00:40:38,150 --> 00:40:35,820 station for me yeah I think it's a place 906 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:38,160 that we go and you kind of recharge you 907 00:40:43,730 --> 00:40:41,760 know from from your lifetime here here 908 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,740 on Earth no matter what happened to you 909 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:46,320 with illness whatever happened to you 910 00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:49,680 physically when you cross the veil and 911 00:40:52,970 --> 00:40:52,020 you wind up on the on the other side of 912 00:40:55,790 --> 00:40:52,980 life 913 00:40:58,430 --> 00:40:55,800 like you said it's that it's it's that 914 00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:58,440 way station it's that place where our 915 00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:01,920 soul kind of recharges it goes through 916 00:41:06,170 --> 00:41:04,200 whatever lesson that it all the lessons 917 00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,180 that it learned while in this lifetime 918 00:41:11,810 --> 00:41:08,160 and it gets ready to make a return 919 00:41:14,329 --> 00:41:11,820 Journey back and I'll even throw this 920 00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:14,339 out there who who's who's even to say 921 00:41:20,089 --> 00:41:16,140 that you're coming back here 922 00:41:23,390 --> 00:41:20,099 I mean there are so many other universes 923 00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:23,400 and absolutely places of life you know 924 00:41:26,990 --> 00:41:25,140 who who's to say that our souls are 925 00:41:29,150 --> 00:41:27,000 coming back here so now you could start 926 00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:29,160 talking about people that 927 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:32,400 they identify themselves as star beings 928 00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:35,760 or you know oh I had a you know I I feel 929 00:41:41,170 --> 00:41:39,300 like I'm an ET I mean this makes kind of 930 00:41:44,690 --> 00:41:41,180 sense when you start talking to people 931 00:41:47,210 --> 00:41:44,700 you know or you talk to the person who 932 00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:47,220 you know is 14 years old and has an 933 00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:50,000 immense appreciation for the Civil War 934 00:41:55,069 --> 00:41:52,680 you know and they you know know all 935 00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,079 these facts and it's like what's this 14 936 00:41:59,810 --> 00:41:57,119 year old child 937 00:42:02,089 --> 00:41:59,820 have in common with the Civil War well 938 00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,099 you know I guarantee you make them go 939 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,800 through a past life regression and 940 00:42:07,849 --> 00:42:06,240 they're going to find that they had 941 00:42:09,410 --> 00:42:07,859 probably a past life and they were a 942 00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:09,420 soldier 943 00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:12,180 well it's funny you brought that up 944 00:42:14,210 --> 00:42:13,380 because 945 00:42:17,150 --> 00:42:14,220 um 946 00:42:19,790 --> 00:42:17,160 that's one of my previous lives I 947 00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:19,800 believe I was at Gettysburg 948 00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,380 and I believe I was with the 20th Maine 949 00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:25,200 now why I believe it 950 00:42:31,069 --> 00:42:28,560 that location with Battlefield just I am 951 00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:31,079 drawn to it not because necessarily the 952 00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:33,480 story and the history behind it but I'm 953 00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:36,060 just drawn to the area and always have 954 00:42:40,609 --> 00:42:37,859 been 955 00:42:45,410 --> 00:42:40,619 um even before I knew anything about it 956 00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:45,420 um but I I believe I I believe I am I 957 00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:47,579 mean one of my past lives and I I have 958 00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:49,980 never been regressed but I believe one 959 00:42:56,569 --> 00:42:52,380 of my past lives has something to do 960 00:42:59,329 --> 00:42:56,579 with that yeah interesting and I think a 961 00:43:01,370 --> 00:42:59,339 lot of that has to do with past lives 962 00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:01,380 yeah oh yeah 963 00:43:07,309 --> 00:43:03,660 uh Bernadette wants to know do you have 964 00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,319 a favorite sketch that you've done 965 00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:09,839 favorite sketch that I did yeah 966 00:43:14,089 --> 00:43:10,920 um 967 00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:14,099 it's of a girl I did send it to Vincent 968 00:43:19,370 --> 00:43:17,160 it's a young it's it's a young girl I 969 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:19,380 don't know if he could find it um 970 00:43:25,730 --> 00:43:23,280 and I did a reading for her mother yep 971 00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:25,740 and she lost her 972 00:43:32,270 --> 00:43:29,160 and she's devastated you know she you 973 00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:32,280 know passed very young and tragically 974 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:35,160 so during this reading 975 00:43:39,530 --> 00:43:36,240 um 976 00:43:41,690 --> 00:43:39,540 just to hear her mother say how 977 00:43:43,790 --> 00:43:41,700 confident that she was by getting this 978 00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,800 information and knowing that her 979 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:45,839 daughter's Consciousness that her 980 00:43:50,270 --> 00:43:48,720 daughter isn't just in the Box her 981 00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:50,280 daughter is 982 00:43:53,809 --> 00:43:52,200 on the other side of the veil that her 983 00:43:56,450 --> 00:43:53,819 Consciousness is still there that she 984 00:43:58,430 --> 00:43:56,460 still hears her mother and there were 985 00:44:00,589 --> 00:43:58,440 things that her mother said after she 986 00:44:04,010 --> 00:44:00,599 passed that came through and were 987 00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,020 validated in this reading and just to do 988 00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:06,839 this for that mother and knowing you 989 00:44:11,569 --> 00:44:09,540 know being a father myself you know and 990 00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:11,579 losing you know for her to lose her 991 00:44:16,010 --> 00:44:14,480 daughter so young I mean 992 00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:16,020 tragic 993 00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:18,839 so to be able to give her some form of 994 00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,060 comfort and knowing that her daughter is 995 00:44:26,569 --> 00:44:23,520 still around her her Consciousness still 996 00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:26,579 hears her and she's only a thought away 997 00:44:32,569 --> 00:44:29,880 so be able to to be able to do this for 998 00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,579 for her this is one of the things that I 999 00:44:37,309 --> 00:44:35,040 really hold dear to me this this you 1000 00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:37,319 know that that is I mean for me 1001 00:44:42,290 --> 00:44:40,260 personally when I'm doing Spirit rescue 1002 00:44:44,809 --> 00:44:42,300 but I'm also working with clients that's 1003 00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:44,819 probably the most satisfying 1004 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:47,280 of the work I mean the status most 1005 00:44:50,270 --> 00:44:48,960 satisfying part of doing that work 1006 00:44:53,390 --> 00:44:50,280 because 1007 00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:53,400 when you go in there 1008 00:44:57,349 --> 00:44:55,140 and you start 1009 00:45:00,349 --> 00:44:57,359 picking up on the picking up on 1010 00:45:02,030 --> 00:45:00,359 different aspects of the spirit or the 1011 00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:02,040 person around them or the person you 1012 00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:03,540 believe is or they believe is around 1013 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:06,480 them and where you can do the pinpoint 1014 00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,160 and uh 1015 00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:10,560 that they know 1016 00:45:19,370 --> 00:45:15,359 that they have moved on yeah and uh that 1017 00:45:22,250 --> 00:45:19,380 is that is absolutely I tell you you the 1018 00:45:25,010 --> 00:45:22,260 Euphoria I mean it's just a fork I mean 1019 00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:25,020 you know I uh 1020 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,780 it's hard to describe but when you know 1021 00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:29,599 that you've done that 1022 00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:31,560 it's uh 1023 00:45:37,490 --> 00:45:34,800 yeah it's it's a it it's satisfying 1024 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:37,500 absolutely satisfying and when you could 1025 00:45:41,210 --> 00:45:39,599 bring that kind of help and I I always 1026 00:45:43,730 --> 00:45:41,220 say if you could take just a little bit 1027 00:45:45,770 --> 00:45:43,740 of grief away you can't take it all but 1028 00:45:47,569 --> 00:45:45,780 if you could just make maybe tomorrow a 1029 00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:47,579 little bit better and the next day after 1030 00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:49,920 that then we're doing our you know job 1031 00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:52,500 as healers and as light workers you know 1032 00:45:57,230 --> 00:45:55,200 and we're helping spirit and that's what 1033 00:45:59,569 --> 00:45:57,240 Spirit wants Spirit chooses I totally 1034 00:46:01,609 --> 00:45:59,579 feel whose Spirit wants to work with so 1035 00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,619 if you're in this for the wrong thing or 1036 00:46:05,390 --> 00:46:03,839 you're in this for a gain or your own 1037 00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,400 personal stuff 1038 00:46:10,010 --> 00:46:08,160 spirit will shut off or spirit will 1039 00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:10,020 choose not to work with you 1040 00:46:14,990 --> 00:46:12,060 and your readings are going to become a 1041 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:15,000 hundred times harder you know and that's 1042 00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:16,800 how I feel that Spirit works so if 1043 00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:19,260 you're coming from a good place and you 1044 00:46:25,309 --> 00:46:22,260 put the work into it you will develop a 1045 00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,319 relationship with working with spirit so 1046 00:46:29,030 --> 00:46:27,119 you're on the right path too you're 1047 00:46:30,829 --> 00:46:29,040 coming from a good place 1048 00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:30,839 Vincent wants to know how did you find 1049 00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:33,500 out about your abilities 1050 00:46:40,190 --> 00:46:36,560 just starting to go into these different 1051 00:46:42,770 --> 00:46:40,200 locations that I would be investigating 1052 00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,780 um even before I was investigating the 1053 00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:45,119 Paranormal this goes back to high school 1054 00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:48,300 I was dating a girl and we go over to 1055 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,359 her house to meet her parents and I go 1056 00:46:55,550 --> 00:46:54,240 wait wait I'm seeing I well first I had 1057 00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:55,560 to tell her I'm like I see dead people 1058 00:47:00,589 --> 00:46:58,079 you can imagine how that went right um 1059 00:47:04,130 --> 00:47:00,599 so I'm like okay so I'm seeing this 1060 00:47:06,349 --> 00:47:04,140 older man he has dark dark Rim glasses a 1061 00:47:08,809 --> 00:47:06,359 little bald with a comb over woman with 1062 00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:08,819 big hair he's wearing like a white tux 1063 00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:11,040 and they're like oh 1064 00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:14,520 she goes no way so she runs into her 1065 00:47:17,809 --> 00:47:16,260 mother's room she gets her mom they come 1066 00:47:20,510 --> 00:47:17,819 out and they're holding a picture it's 1067 00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,520 her grandparents wedding photo 1068 00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:23,040 um so it was her grandmother and 1069 00:47:26,329 --> 00:47:24,720 grandfather so I'm like not only am I 1070 00:47:28,970 --> 00:47:26,339 meeting your Mom and Dad tonight but 1071 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,980 your grandparents are here too 1072 00:47:32,089 --> 00:47:31,440 so 1073 00:47:34,490 --> 00:47:32,099 um 1074 00:47:37,490 --> 00:47:34,500 needless to say we only dated a few 1075 00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:37,500 weeks after that and they got rid of the 1076 00:47:47,870 --> 00:47:44,530 yeah so you know when I um 1077 00:47:48,950 --> 00:47:47,880 and I I actually still feel guilty about 1078 00:47:52,609 --> 00:47:48,960 this 1079 00:47:54,829 --> 00:47:52,619 uh but my my wife for 33 years she was 1080 00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:54,839 my second wife right when we first 1081 00:47:59,630 --> 00:47:57,599 started going out and we stated even the 1082 00:48:01,309 --> 00:47:59,640 to the year before we were married I 1083 00:48:03,410 --> 00:48:01,319 never told her about 1084 00:48:06,370 --> 00:48:03,420 my paranormal life 1085 00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:06,380 I kept it completely away from her 1086 00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:08,400 and uh 1087 00:48:12,829 --> 00:48:10,680 when he when I did eventually after we 1088 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:12,839 got married and I did eventually 1089 00:48:17,329 --> 00:48:15,240 tell her about it and start working 1090 00:48:19,550 --> 00:48:17,339 again it was like 1091 00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:19,560 why and did you not tell me this 1092 00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:22,260 beforehand wow I'm in the Paranormal 1093 00:48:27,770 --> 00:48:25,020 closet I mean that's really I mean you 1094 00:48:31,069 --> 00:48:27,780 don't know who to tell this to and then 1095 00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:31,079 I also were in a medical place so I work 1096 00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,819 in a hospital so that was another thing 1097 00:48:36,530 --> 00:48:34,440 once I started to investigate the 1098 00:48:39,170 --> 00:48:36,540 Paranormal and I wanted to start working 1099 00:48:41,510 --> 00:48:39,180 on mediumship I'm like do I come forward 1100 00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:41,520 and say that I'm a working medium too 1101 00:48:49,370 --> 00:48:45,180 like because you're gonna be looked upon 1102 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,380 as that woo-woo guy right so and then at 1103 00:48:53,329 --> 00:48:50,880 one point she being in the medical 1104 00:48:56,089 --> 00:48:53,339 profession I mean you know 1105 00:48:58,010 --> 00:48:56,099 uh because I have dealt with so many 1106 00:49:01,569 --> 00:48:58,020 people especially in nursing homes as 1107 00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:01,579 such and nurses and such and who have 1108 00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,980 experienced so many different things and 1109 00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:06,240 I can imagine 1110 00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:09,060 I mean in the mornings when I'm in the 1111 00:49:13,609 --> 00:49:11,400 hospital I mean I do I'm like the first 1112 00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:13,619 one in and there's times you hear doors 1113 00:49:17,950 --> 00:49:15,780 doors open and doors close and there's 1114 00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:17,960 nobody in the building 1115 00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:20,640 but you know and then once I came out as 1116 00:49:25,849 --> 00:49:22,800 you know this is what I'm doing because 1117 00:49:27,650 --> 00:49:25,859 once you walk the spiritual path you're 1118 00:49:30,589 --> 00:49:27,660 walking it there's no turning back and 1119 00:49:32,030 --> 00:49:30,599 saying oh wait you know me maybe I 1120 00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:32,040 shouldn't have come forward and said 1121 00:49:36,050 --> 00:49:34,440 that I'm doing this so when they came 1122 00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:36,060 forward and they knew that I started to 1123 00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:39,540 do this after one reading was good then 1124 00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:41,700 I had four four more people that wanted 1125 00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:44,280 another reading so now my lunch hours 1126 00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:47,880 you know are people like hey can I do a 1127 00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:50,400 spirit art session and I had to say like 1128 00:49:55,490 --> 00:49:52,380 listen you know like this is where I'm 1129 00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:55,500 working I can't do this every day and 1130 00:50:00,109 --> 00:49:58,140 you know now I really structure it in 1131 00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:00,119 like into my week where it's not just 1132 00:50:05,569 --> 00:50:03,480 one after another because I feel it's 1133 00:50:08,809 --> 00:50:05,579 very important to give spirit that 1134 00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:08,819 respect and time to come through and so 1135 00:50:15,050 --> 00:50:12,240 yeah it's it's just really incredible I 1136 00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,060 understand because you know I I had been 1137 00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:17,280 in the hospital for more than I really 1138 00:50:24,550 --> 00:50:21,540 wanted to be of my life uh but I have 1139 00:50:26,930 --> 00:50:24,560 sensed a lot of things in the hospital 1140 00:50:28,849 --> 00:50:26,940 and uh 1141 00:50:31,730 --> 00:50:28,859 well of course in funeral homes and 1142 00:50:34,550 --> 00:50:31,740 cemeteries antique stores attachments 1143 00:50:37,130 --> 00:50:34,560 and all that it's just like it's never 1144 00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:37,140 ending uh I mean there'll be times where 1145 00:50:41,150 --> 00:50:38,760 I'm somewhere 1146 00:50:43,550 --> 00:50:41,160 out in the middle of nowhere and and I 1147 00:50:44,930 --> 00:50:43,560 will send something right away uh there 1148 00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:44,940 have been times when I've actually seen 1149 00:50:50,030 --> 00:50:47,220 things I just didn't understand but yeah 1150 00:50:52,730 --> 00:50:50,040 I I get it 1151 00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:52,740 you know people who work in in hospitals 1152 00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:55,740 particularly or nursing homes yeah I can 1153 00:50:59,329 --> 00:50:57,900 imagine some of the stuff they you know 1154 00:51:01,549 --> 00:50:59,339 and I know because I've had many of them 1155 00:51:03,170 --> 00:51:01,559 tell me the same thing yeah I had a 1156 00:51:05,329 --> 00:51:03,180 friend that was pushed I mean they 1157 00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:05,339 actually felt a hand push pushed them 1158 00:51:09,530 --> 00:51:06,720 while they were walking in the hallway 1159 00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:09,540 and there was nobody in back of them I 1160 00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:11,760 there's there's definitely some stories 1161 00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,160 maybe a haunted hospital book in the 1162 00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:19,490 um now you also had a chapter in your 1163 00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:21,480 book about UFOs and alien encounters 1164 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,780 what have you been involved with that 1165 00:51:30,049 --> 00:51:27,359 well that was really the first books 1166 00:51:33,549 --> 00:51:30,059 that I started to read were on Roswell 1167 00:51:37,130 --> 00:51:33,559 was Bud uh Hopkins and John Mack 1168 00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:37,140 Schreiber so living very close to the 1169 00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:38,400 Hudson Valley 1170 00:51:45,230 --> 00:51:41,520 I would spend weekends just driving up 1171 00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,240 to the Hudson Valley and stargazing and 1172 00:51:50,089 --> 00:51:47,520 being so close to the town of Pine Bush 1173 00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:50,099 which is an epicenter for 1174 00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,740 the phenomena and talking to people and 1175 00:51:57,410 --> 00:51:54,720 going to the diner there and hearing 1176 00:51:59,870 --> 00:51:57,420 these personal stories of people from 1177 00:52:01,730 --> 00:51:59,880 all walks of life that are seeing craft 1178 00:52:04,730 --> 00:52:01,740 in the night sky that they can't 1179 00:52:07,549 --> 00:52:04,740 identify from Boomerang shapes to people 1180 00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:07,559 talking about seeing light beings appear 1181 00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:10,380 in fields and then vanish hearing a 1182 00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:13,740 strange vibration coming from under the 1183 00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,079 Earth that just ceases it starts and 1184 00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:19,440 stops other encounters up in that Pine 1185 00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:21,660 Bush area are seeing these lightning 1186 00:52:27,530 --> 00:52:24,480 streaks that come out of the ground and 1187 00:52:29,450 --> 00:52:27,540 then just dissipate and vanish 1188 00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:29,460 um so that whole Hudson Valley area I 1189 00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:32,760 feel the veil is thin for paranormal but 1190 00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:37,140 the Extraterrestrial and the UFO story 1191 00:52:40,490 --> 00:52:38,700 that's happening there that's still 1192 00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:40,500 happening today there's still people 1193 00:52:44,750 --> 00:52:43,200 that are experiencing missing time and 1194 00:52:46,670 --> 00:52:44,760 abduction 1195 00:52:48,109 --> 00:52:46,680 and hearing these stories I'm like I 1196 00:52:49,970 --> 00:52:48,119 really want to put this in the Case 1197 00:52:53,150 --> 00:52:49,980 Files book so 1198 00:52:55,609 --> 00:52:53,160 I did that and with Case Files like I 1199 00:52:57,890 --> 00:52:55,619 say there's so many people that find you 1200 00:52:59,930 --> 00:52:57,900 know a section of the book that's that's 1201 00:53:03,650 --> 00:52:59,940 really for them whether it's Sasquatch 1202 00:53:06,849 --> 00:53:03,660 or the Cryptids or aliens or ghosts but 1203 00:53:09,230 --> 00:53:06,859 the next book that's coming out is the 1204 00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:09,240 extraterrestrials in the Hudson Valley I 1205 00:53:14,450 --> 00:53:12,960 had so much I had so much content that I 1206 00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:14,460 said this is a whole other book I think 1207 00:53:18,290 --> 00:53:15,839 we were talking about that you wind up 1208 00:53:19,609 --> 00:53:18,300 with so much information that it can be 1209 00:53:23,329 --> 00:53:19,619 a whole nother book 1210 00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,339 so I it's mind-numbing sometimes 1211 00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:25,920 um so I have one going out next and 1212 00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:28,380 that's going to be just focusing on the 1213 00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,680 Hudson Valley and my time in the pine 1214 00:53:36,309 --> 00:53:33,839 bush area and talking to these Witnesses 1215 00:53:38,990 --> 00:53:36,319 and even talking about my own 1216 00:53:41,569 --> 00:53:39,000 experiences even working in the field 1217 00:53:44,450 --> 00:53:41,579 and investigating these places on how I 1218 00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:44,460 felt being an intuitive and feeling 1219 00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:48,000 certain areas are more energy sensitive 1220 00:53:54,170 --> 00:53:51,420 than others there's certain sections of 1221 00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:54,180 Pine Bush that you walk in and you feel 1222 00:53:59,089 --> 00:53:56,760 dizzy that there's some kind of a force 1223 00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:59,099 field that's being emitted from from 1224 00:54:04,609 --> 00:54:01,200 like the ground or maybe it's coming 1225 00:54:09,410 --> 00:54:06,890 um that's attracting these beings there 1226 00:54:12,650 --> 00:54:09,420 I mean I mean when you look at that 1227 00:54:14,990 --> 00:54:12,660 1980s flap it's crazy I mean there were 1228 00:54:16,730 --> 00:54:15,000 people on highways that were pulling 1229 00:54:18,109 --> 00:54:16,740 over I mean this wasn't one or two 1230 00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:18,119 people we were talking about hundreds of 1231 00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,500 people that are looking up in the night 1232 00:54:26,270 --> 00:54:22,079 sky and seeing a craft that was the size 1233 00:54:31,069 --> 00:54:28,549 yeah you know it's it's you know it's a 1234 00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,079 wonderful thing being a 14 researcher on 1235 00:54:35,809 --> 00:54:33,119 an Eclectic paranormalist because you 1236 00:54:38,870 --> 00:54:35,819 you don't stick with one thing 1237 00:54:41,329 --> 00:54:38,880 you can't get everything I mean you know 1238 00:54:44,930 --> 00:54:41,339 I've had people ask me and you're I see 1239 00:54:47,150 --> 00:54:44,940 you're the same way that whatever is of 1240 00:54:49,069 --> 00:54:47,160 Interest or something that's unusual 1241 00:54:54,049 --> 00:54:49,079 you're going to you're going to look 1242 00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:54,059 into it and uh yeah I I absolutely you 1243 00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:55,980 know that's that's a good thing 1244 00:55:00,049 --> 00:54:57,599 and I always say when you're coming from 1245 00:55:01,849 --> 00:55:00,059 the right place things are going to work 1246 00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:01,859 for you and 1247 00:55:07,190 --> 00:55:05,520 I was that kid in the library in that 1248 00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:07,200 darkened Corner in that paranormal 1249 00:55:13,450 --> 00:55:10,559 section reading com reading the 1250 00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:13,460 communion book from scriber 1251 00:55:18,650 --> 00:55:16,559 yeah and I remember I brought it to like 1252 00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:18,660 my study hall class and my teacher was 1253 00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:20,520 like what are you reading I'm like this 1254 00:55:24,349 --> 00:55:22,680 is chameleon from Whitley strieber and 1255 00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,359 yeah she's like you don't want to read 1256 00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,359 like Huck Finn or The Great Gatsby I'm 1257 00:55:33,650 --> 00:55:29,760 like no I want to read communion 1258 00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:33,660 um so now fast forward a few months ago 1259 00:55:38,270 --> 00:55:36,480 with my book with the extraterrestrials 1260 00:55:40,430 --> 00:55:38,280 in the Hudson Valley I had the 1261 00:55:43,490 --> 00:55:40,440 opportunity to spend an hour chatting on 1262 00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,500 the phone with Whitley streber and I 1263 00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:45,839 told him about this and I said Mr 1264 00:55:51,470 --> 00:55:49,020 streber I was reading your book you know 1265 00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:51,480 the eighth grade I was going in you know 1266 00:55:57,230 --> 00:55:54,359 to high school I I was bringing 1267 00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,240 yearbooks into my study hall because I 1268 00:56:02,450 --> 00:55:59,280 felt that that's what I needed to read 1269 00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:02,460 rather than the Great Gatsby and and he 1270 00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:05,040 had a good laugh about that and uh he 1271 00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:08,160 that's interesting he is profiled in uh 1272 00:56:12,010 --> 00:56:10,380 the book that's coming out because his 1273 00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:12,020 story alone 1274 00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:15,359 encompasses the Hudson Valley and the 1275 00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:18,660 Pine Bush Encounters in the 1980s and 1276 00:56:23,329 --> 00:56:21,359 what an interesting man and it was a 1277 00:56:26,510 --> 00:56:23,339 real honor to get the chance to actually 1278 00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,520 talk to one of your Heroes yeah 1279 00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:28,559 Whitley's an interesting guy I I've 1280 00:56:33,770 --> 00:56:31,500 talked to him on one occasion in 1281 00:56:37,549 --> 00:56:33,780 particular but uh absolutely an 1282 00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:37,559 interesting guy uh yeah you know when I 1283 00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:40,319 was I'm a child of the 60s and the 70s 1284 00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:43,380 and the early 70s and uh 1285 00:56:47,150 --> 00:56:45,359 you know when you're the kid in high 1286 00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:47,160 school who's reading Chariots of the 1287 00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,720 Gods you know you kind of get people 1288 00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:50,880 looking at you like 1289 00:56:55,490 --> 00:56:53,400 but see I was lucky enough because I had 1290 00:56:59,089 --> 00:56:55,500 a science teacher 1291 00:57:01,609 --> 00:56:59,099 who actually taught a semester on 1292 00:57:05,390 --> 00:57:01,619 Ancient Aliens and this is back in the 1293 00:57:07,069 --> 00:57:05,400 70s oh my God absolutely he was he was 1294 00:57:09,530 --> 00:57:07,079 British 1295 00:57:13,849 --> 00:57:09,540 uh but you know he was in the United 1296 00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:13,859 States but he was so into 1297 00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:17,760 the ancient alien Theory and uh we had 1298 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:20,220 we had a planetarium in our in our 1299 00:57:23,870 --> 00:57:21,240 school 1300 00:57:26,750 --> 00:57:23,880 and he was you know he was a space I 1301 00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:26,760 mean Earth and space uh science teacher 1302 00:57:32,569 --> 00:57:29,940 but yeah we had a whole semester on 1303 00:57:33,770 --> 00:57:32,579 Ancient Aliens and and then that and I 1304 00:57:36,829 --> 00:57:33,780 tell you that 1305 00:57:38,690 --> 00:57:36,839 I I got to thank the guy Mr Robinson was 1306 00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:38,700 his name I got to thank him I don't know 1307 00:57:45,049 --> 00:57:42,000 whatever happened to him yeah but he was 1308 00:57:48,650 --> 00:57:45,059 he he was he was he really sparked my 1309 00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:48,660 interest in all of that so yeah that 1310 00:57:55,370 --> 00:57:51,359 that's interesting I mean when you look 1311 00:57:57,770 --> 00:57:55,380 at these civilizations that all came to 1312 00:58:00,790 --> 00:57:57,780 be and the work that went into building 1313 00:58:04,370 --> 00:58:00,800 these temples and these monuments I mean 1314 00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:04,380 Precision stuff that's aligned to the 1315 00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:05,880 stars and 1316 00:58:11,809 --> 00:58:09,839 uh you're you're telling me that that 1317 00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,819 primitive man 1318 00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:14,160 made these pyramids and made these 1319 00:58:18,589 --> 00:58:16,020 temples uh 1320 00:58:20,569 --> 00:58:18,599 I don't know about that 1321 00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:20,579 yeah you know the the whole ancient 1322 00:58:25,730 --> 00:58:22,920 alien thing you know you know in that 1323 00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:25,740 that book and you know the Cherry of the 1324 00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,559 Gods and I you know it it does seem kind 1325 00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:30,960 of far-fixed but 1326 00:58:35,870 --> 00:58:33,599 honestly and this is one Theory I've had 1327 00:58:38,930 --> 00:58:35,880 for a long period of time especially 1328 00:58:41,450 --> 00:58:38,940 since I started working with abductees 1329 00:58:44,030 --> 00:58:41,460 and I wrote a book about my experiences 1330 00:58:45,710 --> 00:58:44,040 with that duck teeth right uh there's 1331 00:58:47,170 --> 00:58:45,720 some intervention somewhere down the 1332 00:58:51,530 --> 00:58:47,180 line I mean 1333 00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:51,540 Evolution yeah the you know there's 1334 00:58:56,329 --> 00:58:53,280 something to evolution 1335 00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,339 but there's also there is definitely 1336 00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:58,559 gotta been have there been some type of 1337 00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:00,480 intervention at some point where they 1338 00:59:05,150 --> 00:59:02,520 changed like a chromosome or absolutely 1339 00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:05,160 that made us you know go from banging 1340 00:59:12,049 --> 00:59:08,339 rocks on a cave wall to you know yeah 1341 00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:12,059 trying to build and yeah 1342 00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:15,839 yeah I mean um I I think those of us who 1343 00:59:19,849 --> 00:59:18,180 grew up around that time when all this 1344 00:59:22,370 --> 00:59:19,859 was just really starting 1345 00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,380 uh we were looking uh and I I was 1346 00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:24,720 absolutely lucky enough to been to have 1347 00:59:30,770 --> 00:59:27,119 a teacher who was interested yeah I wish 1348 00:59:33,470 --> 00:59:30,780 I mean I was born in 82. so 1349 00:59:36,109 --> 00:59:33,480 you know I grew up with the In Search of 1350 00:59:38,569 --> 00:59:36,119 and the show sightings and you know the 1351 00:59:44,089 --> 00:59:38,579 Xbox of course made made everybody want 1352 00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:46,010 so Richard why don't you tell folks how 1353 00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:48,540 they get in contact with you um how you 1354 00:59:52,250 --> 00:59:50,040 can get your books and whatever else you 1355 00:59:55,809 --> 00:59:52,260 want to tell us about yeah you can log 1356 01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:57,890 www.richardmichella.com and I list all 1357 01:00:03,230 --> 01:00:00,960 my events that I'm doing there and uh 1358 01:00:05,569 --> 01:00:03,240 you could go to the store that I have 1359 01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:05,579 there you could buy buy all my books off 1360 01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:08,880 Amazon there's Barnes and Noble 1361 01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:10,260 um these are the events that I have 1362 01:00:14,210 --> 01:00:11,760 coming up if you're in the New Jersey 1363 01:00:15,770 --> 01:00:14,220 area you can check out crystals of 1364 01:00:18,530 --> 01:00:15,780 quartz House of healing investigation 1365 01:00:20,990 --> 01:00:18,540 that's Saturday February 11th from 6 to 1366 01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:21,000 10 p.m uh it's sponsored by full moon 1367 01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:23,640 paranormal come on out I'm also going to 1368 01:00:26,569 --> 01:00:24,960 do a little bit of spirit art there 1369 01:00:28,609 --> 01:00:26,579 we're going to do a seance if you live 1370 01:00:30,170 --> 01:00:28,619 in northern New Jersey and in Southern 1371 01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:30,180 New Jersey I'm going to be at the Ritz 1372 01:00:33,109 --> 01:00:31,140 Theater 1373 01:00:34,370 --> 01:00:33,119 doing an investigation with a meet and 1374 01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:34,380 greet with my good friend Anthony 1375 01:00:37,789 --> 01:00:36,180 simonelli 1376 01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:37,799 you gotta come out for this one 1377 01:00:41,630 --> 01:00:40,079 Anthony's a fantastic guy and we're 1378 01:00:43,789 --> 01:00:41,640 going to have an investigation you can 1379 01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:43,799 investigate the Ritz with us so that's 1380 01:00:49,370 --> 01:00:46,440 April 14th and that's from 7 P.M to 1381 01:00:51,530 --> 01:00:49,380 midnight so the Ritz was a very cool 1382 01:00:54,530 --> 01:00:51,540 place we went there a few uh months back 1383 01:00:56,930 --> 01:00:54,540 and I did some Spirit art there and it's 1384 01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:56,940 cool to see how the evidence came uh 1385 01:01:01,609 --> 01:00:59,220 forward and I believe that I sketched a 1386 01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:01,619 woman that they hear crying in the back 1387 01:01:06,170 --> 01:01:03,720 of the theater 1388 01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,180 interesting so these are the books that 1389 01:01:10,910 --> 01:01:08,160 are out you go my New Jersey paranormal 1390 01:01:13,730 --> 01:01:10,920 projects Spirit voices Case Files 1391 01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:13,740 Spirits in history and spirit Seeker so 1392 01:01:18,589 --> 01:01:16,740 and everything's on Amazon Amazon yeah 1393 01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:18,599 check them out you can get them on my 1394 01:01:24,530 --> 01:01:21,839 website too so well Richard thanks for 1395 01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:24,540 coming on tonight and uh thank you for 1396 01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:26,280 having me back on again get you into 1397 01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:29,040 another round table some point yeah 1398 01:01:34,970 --> 01:01:31,380 great look forward to talking to you 1399 01:01:36,589 --> 01:01:34,980 again definitely Lon thank you okay you 1400 01:01:39,770 --> 01:01:36,599 take care and you have a good weekend 1401 01:01:44,329 --> 01:01:42,650 now if uh you have a citing or encounter 1402 01:01:46,490 --> 01:01:44,339 report uh that you'd like to be 1403 01:01:48,349 --> 01:01:46,500 considered for the personal report show 1404 01:01:51,170 --> 01:01:48,359 or just post on fam as a monster feel 1405 01:01:53,210 --> 01:01:51,180 free to forward to my email at lawn 1406 01:01:54,950 --> 01:01:53,220 Strickland families and monsters.com and 1407 01:01:56,510 --> 01:01:54,960 I want to again thank Rich Michelle for 1408 01:01:59,210 --> 01:01:56,520 joining me this evening 1409 01:02:02,089 --> 01:01:59,220 and thanks to each and all you for uh 1410 01:02:04,609 --> 01:02:02,099 watching and chatting always appreciate 1411 01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:04,619 the questions and and the lovely 1412 01:02:09,890 --> 01:02:07,200 conversation in the chat room 1413 01:02:12,589 --> 01:02:09,900 so uh and please like subscribe and 1414 01:02:15,410 --> 01:02:12,599 share and feel free to comment as well 1415 01:02:17,450 --> 01:02:15,420 so next Wednesday 1416 01:02:19,370 --> 01:02:17,460 uh I'm not gonna have a personal report 1417 01:02:21,829 --> 01:02:19,380 show but I am going to have an 1418 01:02:24,289 --> 01:02:21,839 interesting show with my friends Kyle 1419 01:02:27,370 --> 01:02:24,299 Filson and cam Hale 1420 01:02:30,289 --> 01:02:27,380 from the expanded perspectives podcast 1421 01:02:33,230 --> 01:02:30,299 uh that'll be at nine o'clock P.M 1422 01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:33,240 Eastern 6 p.m Pacific time 1423 01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:35,359 and next Friday 1424 01:02:41,329 --> 01:02:38,400 uh we're going to be conducting an 1425 01:02:43,789 --> 01:02:41,339 aquatic Cryptid round table and our 1426 01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:43,799 guest will be Ron Murphy who I see is in 1427 01:02:48,530 --> 01:02:45,900 the chat tonight Kenny Irish and Max 1428 01:02:51,710 --> 01:02:48,540 Hawthorne so that should be a very 1429 01:02:53,510 --> 01:02:51,720 interesting interesting show uh now 1430 01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:53,520 Bernadette I think is under the weather 1431 01:02:56,990 --> 01:02:55,440 tonight I don't think she's doing her 1432 01:02:59,870 --> 01:02:57,000 show but then again I don't know if 1433 01:03:01,789 --> 01:02:59,880 she's changed her mind or not but uh I 1434 01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:01,799 don't think she'll be on tonight so uh 1435 01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:03,839 anyway until we meet again 1436 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:06,960 stay safe stay healthy and have a good 1437 01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:33,630 [Music] 1438 01:03:38,700 --> 01:03:51,280 foreign